John 14:23 – We Will Come to Him

Jesus answered him, “If a man loves me, he will keep my word. My Father will love him, and we will come to him, and make our home with him.” — John 14:23.

This verse is sometimes given by trinitarians and some others as proof that that Jesus is Yahweh, or a person of Yahweh. Without such a thought laid before us, however, just reading the scripture certainly does not bring forth any thought that Jesus was claiming to be Yahweh, or a person of Yahweh. Elsewhere, he identified his Father as the “only true God”, the Supreme Source of all power (the Supreme Being). (John 17:1,3) Thus, it is only by use of the human imagination that one could “see” trinity in this verse, or that Jesus is Yahweh.  There are several arguments surrounding this verse by which some claim to “see” the idea that Jesus is Yahweh.

Was Jesus Saying that He is Omnipresent?

One claims that since Jesus lives in the believer that this means that Jesus is omnipresent, that Jesus is present everywhere at all times, and thus, according to their reasoning, this is one of the attributes that only belongs to Yahweh, and from this they conclude that Jesus was claiming to be Yahweh. If the thought that he and his God and Father make their home with those who love Jesus is being thought to mean that Jesus is present absolutely everywhere in the universe, we should note that the wording would actually restrict the location of Jesus and his God, as being applied in this verse, as being at home only with those who love Jesus, not as being at home in absolutely every place in the entire universe. Jesus was not saying that he was living and existing  everywhere in the universe all at the same time and all the time, since such would mean that he would also be living in every person on earth, not just those who obey him. This being so, there is nothing in the application of this verse that would mean that Jesus is present absolutely everywhere all at once.

In the context, however, Jesus is not just speaking of his living in believers, but also of the believers’ living, not just in him, but also in his God. He stated to this disciples: “In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you.” (John 14:20) Notice that Jesus does not just say that he is in the disciples, but also that the disciples are in him. Earlier, he stated: “He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood lives in me, and I in him.” (John 6:56) Again, Jesus stated that, not only is he living in the believer, but that believer is also living in him. And later, he prayer for his followers, “that they may all be one; even as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that you sent me.” (John 17:21) Should we conclude from these scriptures that the believers are omnipresent in Jesus and God?

Regardless, there is nothing in the verse that gives any thought that Jesus was saying that he possessed an exclusive attribute of the Most High, or that he was equal to the One whom he worshiped, prayed to, and who sent him, and whose will he carried out in willful obedience. — Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Matthew 4:4 (Deuteronomy 8:3; Luke 4:4); Matthew 4:7 (Deuteronomy 6:16); Matthew 4:10 (Exodus 20:3-5; 34:14; Deuteronomy 6:13,14; 10:20; Luke 4:8 ); Matthew 22:29-40; Matthew 26:42; Matthew 27:46; Mark 10:6 (Genesis 1:27; Genesis 2:7,20-23); Mark 14:36; 15:34; Luke 22:42; John 4:3; 5:30; 6:38; 17:1,3; 20:17; Romans 15:6; 2 Corinthians 1:3; 11:31; Ephesians 1:3,17; Hebrews 1:9; 10:7; 1 Peter 1:3; Revelation 2:7; 3:2,12.

John 14:17 – the spirit of truth, which the world can not get, for it is not beholding it, neither is knowing it. Yet you know it, for it is remaining with you and will be in you.” — Concordant Literal Translation.

Many point to the above scripture, and combined with John 14:23 and/or other scriptures, claim that there is the triune God, all three persons, dwelling in the believer.

Let us read, however:

I made known to them your name, and will make it known; that the love with which you loved me may be in them, and I in them. — John 17:26.

Is God’s “love” another person of God who dwells in the believer?

Having been reminded of the unfeigned faith that is in you; which lived first in your grandmother Lois, and your mother Eunice, and, I am persuaded, in you also. — 2 Timothy 1:5.

Is “faith” a person that is dwelling in the believer?

As for you, the anointing which you received from him remains in you, and you don’t need for anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, you will remain in him. — John 2:27.

Is the “anointing” spoken of here another person of God?

The Holy Spirit of God is nowhere in the Bible ever revealed as a person of “God” to whom the Holy Spirit Belongs.

 

 

 

         
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