John 3:34,35 – The Spirit Given to Jesus Without Measure

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John 3:34 – For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God; for God gives the Spirit without measure.
John 3:35 – The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into his hand. — World English

John tells us that Jesus is the one whom God has sent and who speaks the words of God. This fulfills Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Jesus is the prophet of whom Yahweh says: “I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I shall command him.” (Deuteronomy 18:18) And Yahweh gives to Jesus the spirit without limit, so that Jesus can accomplish all the things that Yahweh has put into his hand. (Colossians 2:9,10)

That God has given “all things” into his hand does not mean that Jesus is or became his God who has put all things in his hand, since, as Paul says, “it is evident that he is excepted who subjected all things to him.” (1 Corinthians 15:27)  Additionally, it should be apparent that if the “all things” spoken of here were put into the hands of Jesus, then Jesus did not have this authority/power of himself, but it is “given” to him, which shows that Jesus is not God Almighty. “Who has first given to me, that I should repay him? Everything under the heavens is mine,” says Yahweh. (Job 41:11; Romans 11:35; see 1 Chronicles 29:11,12; John 10:29; 14:28) Thus through this, as well as many other scriptures, the holy spirit reveals that Jesus is not Yahweh.

The claim has been made that we are presenting “problems where none exist“, since no one is claiming that anything is given to “God”. If this is true, then Jesus is not God, nor can he become God, since to become God would mean that Jesus was never given anything. See: Ephesians 5:27 – Jesus Presents the Church to Himself.

One has stated: “If Jesus has the the spirit without measure of the only true God then he is immeasurably the only true God, as God is spirit.” The reasoning appears to be the “without measure” means infinite, which it does in that God held nothing back in his giving the holy spirit to Jesus. The logic being promoted, however, would seem to say that this means that Jesus became the only true God when Jesus received the Holy Spirit of his God. This logic is from one who believes in some form of the “oneness” doctrine. And, yet this one at the same time argues that the only true God “has no need to be given anything“, which means that Jesus, since he became the only true God, has never been given anything. The statement is made that “Jesus was a limited man who could do nothing in and of himself(John 5:30) but the father in him he doeth the works(John 14:10)”. We have no argument with this at all. The only true God is in his son and the only true God is in all of his children; this does not make either Jesus, or the sons of the Most High, into being the only true God. Nevertheless, the thought that this was given to the man Jesus who “could do nothing in and of himself” would sem to conflict with the idea that the giving of the spirit without measure means that Jesus is God Almighty.

Nevertheless, the logical and most straightforward reasoning to the idea presented, that Jesus’ being given the spirit without measure makes Jesus God Almighty, as applied to what the scripture actually states, it would suggest that there was a time when Jesus was not the only true God, and that thus, upon being given unlimited spirit by his God, Jesus became his God who had given him this spirit. The trinitarian who would try to use this scripture to prove that Jesus is God runs into even greater difficulty, for such an application would have lead to the conclusion that the only true God gave to Himself that which he already had, which is nonsense. Additionally, if the trinitarian should argue that The Father gave this unlimited access to the human Jesus, as opposed to the alleged “God” Jesus, in an effort to try to prove the trinity, then one would be lead to conclude that the human Jesus was the God Jesus.

Scripturally, Jesus is never depicted as becoming his God, nor his Father. The whole idea has to be read into the scriptures. Nor does Jesus’ being given unlimited access to God’s holy spirit mean that Jesus became his God who gave to him this unlimited access. It is claimed that our usage of the phrase, “unlimited access”, is really “limited access”, evidently because we deny that this means that Jesus became his God. To us, unlimited does not mean limited. Our use of “unlimited” does not mean that we are placing limits upon the spirit that is given to Jesus by the only true God. Nevertheless, the thought seems to be that in some vague manner “without measure” means that Jesus received his Father’s spirit, and not only received it, but that he became all of his Father’s spirit, and thus he became the Father. Such an idea is not at all to be found in the Bible, however, rather it is found in the imaginations of those who read such into various scriptures. Without measure does not mean that Jesus became his own Father.

Regardless, the fact that the only true God has given to another His holy spirit without measure does not in any way mean that Jesus ever was, is, or that he will ever be, the only true God who has given His spirit to Jesus. All that is given to Jesus does not mean that Jesus becomes the One who has given all that has been given to Jesus. The being of the only true God is always excepted in all that is given to Jesus. This in no wise places a limit upon Jesus’ access to his God’s holy spirit. — 1 Corinthians 15:27.

From the trinitarian standpoint, the very fact is that only true God would already have his holy spirit without measure, and would not need to be given the holy spirit at all. The very fact is that since Jesus was given this holy spirit by the only true God proves that Jesus is not the only true God who gave the holy spirit to him. Notwithstanding, there is definitely nothing in John 3:34,35 that says that Jesus is the only true God, and definitely nothing about at triune God, or that Jesus is a person of such a God. Any such ideas have to imagined beyond what is written, and then supported by suppositions, and then those suppositions have to be added to, and read into, what is actually stated.

One might also wish to examine the studies listed at:

http://www.mostholyfaith.com/bible/ScripturexRef.asp?parm=KJVwc^John^3^34

The author there presents a slightly different viewpoint than what we have presented here.

         
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2 comments to John 3:34,35 – The Spirit Given to Jesus Without Measure

  • Christians are given the spirit by measure. Jesus the man was made God because he was given the Spirit of the one true God not by measure.(John 3:34) What prince does not ascend to his Fathers throne? God is not passing his throne because of death, as he cannot die. He simply passed his throne by giving his Spirit/God to his son/the man by no measure… I do not see a valid rebuttal in all of this long winded post. However, I do see a pompous wave of the hand in excusing yourself from answering the tough argument. It would not bode well for you or those who believe like you in a debate, in fact it would make your side look very bad in trying to run from the argument. It also looks dishonest, that is what is coming across as I read what was written in a this very bad attempt to refute the evidence. You simply wave your hand and ignore the argument altogether.

  • I personally do not understand why you bring up what the trinitarain teaches? Oneness do not believe like the trinitarin. There is only one true God the Father who existed before his son as that is how a father and son relationship works but I do see in your post you contradicted yourself at the end of your post and proved my argument by saying :
    “that only true God would already have his holy spirit without measure, and would not need to be given the holy spirit at all.”
    Yes exactly! Thank you! God was not given anything the man was by no measure and because God has the Holy Spirit by no measure that is what makes Him God! Because God gave his spirit to his son or the genuine man that made Him God. Once more men have a measure of the spirit God does not!

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